Hi guys

What do you think about these two armies? Which one do you prefer? I have to choose. Tips to improve the armies will clearly well accepted. Thank you


FIRST ONE


Prince Imrahil on horse with spear
8 Knights of Dol Amroth on horse with spear

Eomer of the Pelennor fields on horse
6 Sons of Eorl
1 Rider of Rohan on horse

Erkenbrand on horse
2 Red shields of the westfold on horse
5 Outriders on horse

750 points - 25 models


SECOND ONE


Imrahil on horse with spear
6 Knights of Dol Amroth on horse with spear

Eorl the young on horse
5 Sons of Eorl
1 Royal guard on horse
2 Riders of Rohan on horse

Eomer of the Pelennor fields on horse
2 Riders of rohan
1 Royal guard on horse with javelin
5 Outriders on horse

750 points - 25 models

What exactly do the Outriders do now? I know they've lost their Fate point. Are they just Riders with no shields and a better shoot value?

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Gondor: 2339pts
Rohan: 1318pts
Dwarves: 2482pts
Elves: 1091pts
Mordor: 2305pts
Isengard: 1762pts
Moria: 1463pts
Evil Men: 381pts

Get rid of the outriders, get normal rohan make them red shields with bows too. F4 is the win

I don't remember what particularly was special about Eomer of the Pelennor (besides the bump in the stat line), but I would lean towards the use of the first list- and I would agree with cereal_theif's suggestion- with this type of force, you want to go for winning the fight and flattening enemies as fast as you can, in order to even the odds quicker.

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"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”

I don't want to descrease the number of models, on my opinion 25 models is the minimum. This is the reason why I don't turn outriders in red shields. Maybe I will turn them in normal riders of rohan with bow for have higher defense..but new outriders have a nice little rule that sometimes could be usefull

I'm afraid of the large amount of might that now with the new rules all the armies of Evil. I play only 9 might. It is for that reason that I wrote a list with Eorl the young ,for his special rule that can give me some gratis heroic moves. The list with Erkenbrand, on the other side, plays more Dol Amroth and Sons of Eorl and the army has high courage for the special new rule of Erkenbrand.

It's a hard choice...

Ah. I know not the rule- so keep the outriders, go with the first army, and make sure that you are trampling them under your hooves. Fear not the heroic combat!

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"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”

The rule of Eorl can be nice, but he can't compete in hitting capability with Eomer (I think...). Do remember that the might of an orc captain is not as much of an issue when it is on the end of Imrahil's lance.

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"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”

Eorl is in place of Erkenbrand in the list I wrote in the first post. Would you choose the first or the second list?

I just got somthin that would be nasty if the enemy throw something at you
Trolls.
1 Mordor trol in close combat can overmatch most of all your melee units(just Imrahil might be a good challenge)

But still, I prefer the list 1, you got plenty mighty heroes a every 1 got excelent body guards

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I'm sorry, I did not notice that Eomer was in the second list. I would definitely, DEFINITELY take it over the first- largely because of Eorl's superiority to Erkenbrand. Galanur makes a good point regarding the trolls, but it is worthy of note that you will get much, much farther with this list if you ignore the trolls and kill everything around it. Which one can do. Usually.

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"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”

I am no expert on Rohan, but I think I will prefer the first list. Don't KoDA have lances?

Mordor Trolls are the last of my thoughts, I don't fear them. I fear lists with two ringwraiths, my worst enemies.

@Elven Lord: Yes they have lances

NAzguls are pretty fearsome oponent to screw up your heroes, but probably you should "sacrifice" one of your heroes to keep the nazguls busy while the other flank around and do the job(1 nazgul can´t target with magic more than 1 guy )

But when you see one of this guys, what they usually have around them?

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In this moment I can find them in all kind of armies: mordor, harad, esterlings, angmar..but even moria..!

I can manage one Nazgul, the problem is when facing a list with two of them. This one is the list I fear the most..

You a had a good point on sacrificing one of the two "big" heroes: Imrahil and Eomer of the Pelennor. I think about it for several times but I reached the conclusion that they are quite indispensable, to make opponent worry, to face Nazguls and to hardly hit the opponent and to quickly balance the inferiority of models. Imrahil with lance on horse and the new Eomer with his special rule together have an impressive desctructive potential. I decide to play absolutely with these two guys.
My choice on the trio of heroes are: Imrahil-Eomer-Erkenbrand or Imrahil-Eomer-Eorl.
Erkenbrand and Eorl were chosen for their special really usefull rules and because of their Might 3 value (important for an entire army of riders)

When dealing with Nazgul it is important to remember that they are not an issue if they are on the end of someone's lance, or if they just got run over by somebody. The best way to take them out is with a heroic combat, but failing that, keep the army charging- if your heroes only manage to do that and you can win the fights, then you stand a solid chance of keeping the heroes alive just because your normal cavalry is running rampant over the enemy.

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"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”

I'm going to play in a official tournament on Sunday and this is the list I will probably play (points limit is 750):

Imrahil
8 Knights of Dol Amroth

Eomer, rider of the Pelennor
6 Sons of Eorl
1 Rider of ROhan

Erkenbrand
2 Red shields of the Westfold
2 Outiriders
3 Riders of Rohan with bow

25 models (all mounted) - 750 pt.



What do you think about this list? and what do you think about the division in bands?

Thank you so much guys

illegal...
you have 9 without bow, 5 with bow.

But once you ammend that it looks good.

You are wrong. The rules says that the bow count in excess, so if I have 14 models of rohan in total I can give bow up to 5 of them

ahhhh, sweet stuff. In that case looks pretty good