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 Post subject: Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:03 pm 
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Rock on. Hit them hard, hit them fast, and remember that the Heroic Combat is your best friend.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:19 pm 
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Valamir wrote:
Rock on. Hit them hard, hit them fast, and remember that the Heroic Combat is your best friend.


I'll keep that in my mind. Thanks guys, I will tell you the results of the tournament 8)

" Dol Amroth for Gondor! "
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:35 pm 
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Look forward to hearing about it! May your swords stay sharp, and arrows fly ever true!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:04 pm 
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First place !!! 8) I won!
I played with 25 models all mounted:

Imrahil
8 Dol amroth
Eomer of the Pelennor
6 Sons of Eorl
1 RohirriM
Erkenbrand
2 Redshields
2 Outriders
3 Rohirrim with bow

The tournament was great and there were lots of people. I had a lot of fun and I'm very very pride of my army 8)




I thought another version of my army:


Imrahil horse,lance
9 Dol Amroth lance,horse

Eowyn horse,javelins,shield, armour
8 Sons of Eorl
2 Outriders on horse

Elladan & Elrohir horse, heavy armour

749 points - 23 models - 11 might


what do you think? Is it better than the other army that makes me win the tournament? thank you guys :)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:02 pm 
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I prefere the one you used for the tournament for a "winning" idea but for a fun idea the new list is a million times better
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:40 pm 
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Well done on the tournament! Congrats!

Now, about the new list- in terms of basic warriors, this one is superior, with a greater number of Knights and Sons. Elladan and Elrohir do have their advantages, however, their main disadvantage is that they (if I recall correctly) cannot use two-swords on horseback- which means that you won't be getting any more attacks than an elven captain on horse. True, it does get you more might, but there is that small trade-off. Eowyn is very nice, but not nearly as nice as her brother.

As for the list being better or not, I would say that it's about the same as the previous, because the troop quality makes up for the slight (comparatively speaking) lack that either Elladan or Elrohir would have compared one-to-one with Eomer. The armies would operate very similarly, except that I (were I your opponent) would, in the new list, direct all magic at Imrahil, because he is your single-best model. In the first list, Eomer takes some of that pressure off.

But that is just my analysis of the two of them, comparatively. Either one would be fun to play with! :)

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Imrahil
8 Dol amroth
Eomer of the Pelennor
6 Sons of Eorl
1 RohirriM
Erkenbrand
2 Redshields
2 Outriders
3 Rohirrim with bow

This list has too many bows....
Riders cant ditch their bows in the current rules and your limit is per Alliance not army and doesnt count Heroes
you have 14 Warriors in your Rohan Warbands with 8 Bows
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:06 pm 
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Riders can ditch their bows, read your ORB please.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:05 pm 
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Phoenix1986 wrote:
your limit is per Alliance not army and doesnt count Heroes
you have 14 Warriors in your Rohan Warbands with 8 Bows


What are you saying? :rofl: I have 5 bows !
I know the rules. The list is perfectly legal
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:36 pm 
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You have 8 bows;
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1 Rohirrim, 2 Redshields, 2 Outriders and 3 Rohirrim with bow


Unless the 1 Rohirrim is on foot, in which case 7.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:59 pm 
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The new Sourcebooks supersede the ORB.

You cant lose that Rohan Bow
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:46 pm 
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I would expect it on the FAQ tbh
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:07 am 
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GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:
You have 8 bows;
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1 Rohirrim, 2 Redshields, 2 Outriders and 3 Rohirrim with bow


Unless the 1 Rohirrim is on foot, in which case 7.

All models are mounted.

I have 5 bows !!

2 Ouriders
3 Riders of Rohan with bow (I specified that they have bows...)

Total 5 bows !

Only the riders of rohan who have the bow in their hands are considered armed with bow. This is by GW.

Plaese guys, costructive comments on the list and no useless comments, thank you
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:16 pm 
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IN LoME yes as could Khand horsemen and metal Harad raiders, but it's not mentioned in Warbands, thus all Riders of Rohan regardless of whether bow is in hand or on back have bows, unless house ruled, otherwise, or overruled by a tournament. Maybe that is the case?

I think only Outriders on foot are useful, they are rubbish mounted IMO.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:27 pm 
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Just checked the doubles rules pack and it is not mentioned... odd
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:30 am 
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Gw has already done the FAQs of Warbands and no mention of such an errata.

An FAQ based on old rules is irrelevant

Note: the demo list in every book even has 5 Riders and 12 Warriors of Rohan
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:16 am 
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A very simple way to get around the situation, if you concede to the current arguments, is to simply, imo, bring more Sons of Eorl.

As for the lists previously posted, I gave my thoughts above, which no one has really decided to challenge in any way yet. Excepting the bow thing.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:33 am 
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Don't redshields have bows, or not?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:39 am 
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All riders of Rohan technically have bows, though most people play that only those with bows out actually 'have' them and can use them in the battle. Which, imo, makes sense, though apparently GW might now disagree (though it was originally their distinction).

So, in short, yes, redshields, being riders of Rohan, have bows. Unless the book says otherwise.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:51 am 
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ok, I got the point. you are right. at the tournament there was a rule like the hold system GW's faq for the riders of rohan with bows.
I think I will change the list in that way, what do you think?

Imrahill
8 DA with horse,lance

Eomer of Pelennor Fields on horse
7 Sons of Eorl

Erkenbrand on horse
2 Sons of Eorl
2 Ouriders on horse
1 Redshield of the westfold with bow

23 models - 750 points - 3 bows

From 25 to 23 models in total. Will it be a problem? 23 is too few models?
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