WIP Harad Army (maybe Heavy Pictures)

tiz16 · **Joined:** Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:43 pm **Posts:** 36

so, after i washed and highlighted my haradrim with first badab black, then i highlighted the model with pure bleached bone, then i highlighted again with skull white. I HATE IT!!! it sucks, i just don't like it...

i tried on a rohan warrior to first paint the cloak with a layer of sneakbite leather, then i gave 2 layers of bleached bone and then i washed it with a 2/1 part of sneakbite leather and bleached bones. then i drybrushed everything with bleached bones and then i painted the edges of the cloak with bleached bone.
it looks to me like it's too brownish, i'd like something that shows the shadows, but leaves the original bleached bones colour.

please help me :shock:

i almost cried when i saw the result :sad:

thanks

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:26 pm

You should've washed with Devlan mud, not Badab Black, its too dark for what you need. It's still pretty good though, and the blue is still very good.

tiz16 · **Joined:** Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:43 pm **Posts:** 36

i'm gonna buy the devlan mud wash as soon as i can

i'm also really happy with the blue
i was wondering, how do i do the pices of rope?? i did mine sneakbite leather and then highlighted with bleached bone, but i don't like them...
thanks

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:11 pm

Paint snakebite leather, then wash with devlan mud, then highlight/drybrush with bleached bone/dheneb stone.

warhammergamingnl · **Joined:** Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:06 pm **Posts:** 215

Nice models! I'll stay tuned for more ;D

Jobu · **Posted:** Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:52 pm

Using the black on a light colored scheme was, as has been mentioned, not a great technique. You can try to glaze down the black by using a very thin coat of your base color ( like 5:1 water:paint or more depending on the color ) then highlight back up.

Here is a good chart to reference what paint to use for shade/base/highlight method when using the old GW colors. You can also use it to find more intermediate highlighting/shading
i.e.
look at snakebite leather-shade with bestial and highlight with bubonic brown. if you want more highlighting look at bubonic when it is a base-you would use vomit brown then bleached bone.
Hope this helps.

http://www.paintingclinic.com/clinic/gu ... chart2.htm

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:30 pm

Jobu, some of the paints on that haven't been sold by GW for years.

Jobu · **Posted:** Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:20 pm

GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:

Jobu, some of the paints on that haven't been sold by GW for years.

I am aware of that, however it really does not matter since they are all gone as of next week. Thanks for the awesome critic and helpful commentary. Would you please provide another example of a chart with current GW paints in a fashion that illustrates the use of base/highlight/shade in the colors he is working with?

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:37 pm

No need for sarcasm, there was actualy a point to it. As tiz16 is new, he won;t have any if those old paints, but he will have the paints still available for the next week and a bit, it is pointless telling him to use eg Vomit Brown, Leproes Brown, Tentacle Pink or Lightning Bolt Blue, because he is unlikely to be able to buy them.

tiz16 · **Joined:** Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:43 pm **Posts:** 36

thanks guys, so devlan mud... does it also work with faces??

thank you

Dead Marsh Spectre · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:53 am

water it down and it works great for faces

tiz16 · **Joined:** Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:43 pm **Posts:** 36

Is devlan mud like a must have wash?!?!
Thanks for the help guys

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:49 am

Aye, it is the best wash, for ages, it was the only wash I had and it was mighty useful.

MS, I do not water it downn, but I am nowhere near as good as you.

Dead Marsh Spectre · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:56 pm

If I use undiluted devlin mud on a face then i have to rehighlight the prominent features - if i add an equal parts mix water to devlin mud no rehighlight is required - probably me being lazy lol

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:51 pm

If its an ordinary warrior, devlan mud usually is the final layer, and the skin is usually flat colour underneath, only heroes, commnad, elites, monsters and some cavalry get special treatment.

tiz16 · **Joined:** Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:43 pm **Posts:** 36

i'll try out as soon as i get the wash... thanks for now guys and i'll keep you updated as i go ahead

Jobu · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:08 pm

GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:

No need for sarcasm, there was actualy a point to it. As tiz16 is new, he won;t have any if those old paints, but he will have the paints still available for the next week and a bit, it is pointless telling him to use eg Vomit Brown, Leproes Brown, Tentacle Pink or Lightning Bolt Blue, because he is unlikely to be able to buy them.

However, if you are going to point out a problem maybe you should try and help, it is VERY easy to point him to a chart that has equivalents by other companies which I guess I should have done.

chart

chart2

tiz16 · **Joined:** Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:43 pm **Posts:** 36

thanks a lot for the chart

Chris GoM · **Posted:** Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:21 pm

This conversion chart may come in handy when you need to see which of the new paints match the old ones (but its not exact)
When painting the off-white in my Haradrim (you'll need to scroll down a bit to see the white), I did a base coat of Deheb Stone, followed by a Wash of Gryphonne Sepia, before reapplying Deheb Stone to the raised areas. For the blue
For the blue, you could start with a basecoat of Ultramarines blue, wash with Asurmen Blue, reapply the Ultramarines Blue and then highlight it with a mix of Ultramarines blue and skull white (not too much, maybe 3:1)
I hope this helps

It seems like your off to a good start though. Keep it up

tiz16 · **Joined:** Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:43 pm **Posts:** 36

trat's pretty much exactly what i did

i just didn't mix the white with the blue, just went really light

thanks man

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