Have I been playing wrong?

MeatBoy1994 · **Posted:** Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:51 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong: A mounted warrior on a charge gets knockdown (I know thats right), BUT in the fight phase, before wounding, does he get a +1 on attacks or +1 on fight value? I played a friend who said they get an extra fight value, and as I dont have the rulebook no more... So, he played as a captain on horse gets F5 and 4 attacks. Or does he have F4 and6 attacks??

Sorry if this breaks any rules!

Elessar Telcontar · **Posted:** Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:15 pm

Charging cavalry models don't get extra Fight. They benefit from knock-down and an Extra Attack. Plus, knocked down models count as trapped and take two strikes per Attack.
I just saw a lot of people openly write about Imrahil's and Amdur's stats, so I don't think this will make GW upset. :?:

Hope I was to any help

MeatBoy1994 · **Posted:** Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:55 pm

Elessar Telcontar wrote:

Charging cavalry models don't get extra Fight. They benefit from knock-down and an Extra Attack. Plus, knocked down models count as trapped and take two strikes per Attack.
I just saw a lot of people openly write about Imrahil's and Amdur's stats, so I don't think this will make GW upset. :?:

Hope I was to any help

Thanks. So, a powerhouse hero like Boromir gets 8 attacks if he wins the fight on a charge? Thats more than most monsters!!

theavenger001 · **Posted:** Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:25 pm

MeatBoy1994 wrote:

Elessar Telcontar wrote:

Charging cavalry models don't get extra Fight. They benefit from knock-down and an Extra Attack. Plus, knocked down models count as trapped and take two strikes per Attack.
I just saw a lot of people openly write about Imrahil's and Amdur's stats, so I don't think this will make GW upset. :?:

Hope I was to any help

Thanks. So, a powerhouse hero like Boromir gets 8 attacks if he wins the fight on a charge? Thats more than most monsters!!

No.
He gets 4 attacks. These get doubled, as his oponent is knocked to the ground and thus trapped. He can kill up to 4 models, but he gets to strike twice at each model, for a total of 8 strikes.

MeatBoy1994 · **Posted:** Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:21 pm

theavenger001 wrote:

MeatBoy1994 wrote:

Elessar Telcontar wrote:

Charging cavalry models don't get extra Fight. They benefit from knock-down and an Extra Attack. Plus, knocked down models count as trapped and take two strikes per Attack.
I just saw a lot of people openly write about Imrahil's and Amdur's stats, so I don't think this will make GW upset. :?:

Hope I was to any help

Thanks. So, a powerhouse hero like Boromir gets 8 attacks if he wins the fight on a charge? Thats more than most monsters!!

No.
He gets 4 attacks. These get doubled, as his oponent is knocked to the ground and thus trapped. He can kill up to 4 models, but he gets to strike twice at each model, for a total of 8 strikes.

But he gets 8 strikes if there is only one enemy in the fight?

General Elessar · **Posted:** Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:02 pm

MeatBoy1994 wrote:

But he gets 8 strikes if there is only one enemy in the fight?

Yes. He can apply all of his four attacks to one model, and each attack is doubled.

Battalia · **Joined:** Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:14 am **Posts:** 190

The trickey part is the wounds. Let's say a normal rider of rohan (1 attack) charges 2 uruk-hai and wins the combat with his 2 attack. (bonus from charging). Then you roll 4 dice, 2 6's and a 1 and a 4. 2 kills right? Wrong. The rohan player just cheated. You MUST roll the dice seperatly. 1 attack has 2 chances to wound. So you roll 2 dice, get 2 6's and kill the first uruk. Then roll 2 more dice for your second attack and roll a 1 and a 4. No kill.

Phoenix1986 · **Posted:** Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:51 pm

because being knocked down gets you double strikes, and you cant apply half a strike

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:56 pm

8 strikes but only 4 attacks Mr Meatboy

MeatBoy1994 · **Posted:** Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:17 am

GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:

8 strikes but only 4 attacks Mr Meatboy

What about vs other cavalry and bigger models? Does he still get an extra attack, but no knockdown?

Phoenix1986 · **Posted:** Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:08 am

neither, so you can counter it by charging him with a cavalry/troll/monster

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:09 pm

Cavalry negates both extra attack and knock to the ground. Against a monster you do still get extra attack but not knoock to the ground, unless the cavalry is a monstrous mount.

ScarpeIron · **Posted:** Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:17 pm

and don't forget if the cavalry has a lance/warspear they get the +1 to wounding.

Battalia · **Joined:** Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:14 am **Posts:** 190

ScarpeIron wrote:

and don't forget if the cavalry has a lance/warspear they get the +1 to wounding.

Only if the cav has charged. No lance bonus if they were charged first

rififivos · **Joined:** Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:03 pm **Posts:** 50

Phoenix1986 wrote:

neither, so you can counter it by charging him with a cavalry/troll/monster

This is partialy false since if you countercharge with a troll/monster the cavalryman doesn't lose his extra attack and even the knocked-down bonus is retained against the initial target.

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