Nazgul armies in SBG - viability? and at what points?

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:26 am

tends to be around the 12" range as with most other magical spells.

Draugluin · **Posted:** Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:42 am

All he has to do is stay right around whatever warriors he's leading, then cast the spell when you get in close. You either lose some Will or your fell beast.

NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:21 pm

Does the flying Nazgul that you can buy now from games workshop come with 2 different rider bodies? Or is it just different heads? Random question I know, but thank you x

Baldrick · **Posted:** Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:16 am

NotLegolasJustTipsy wrote:

Does the flying Nazgul that you can buy now from games workshop come with 2 different rider bodies? Or is it just different heads? Random question I know, but thank you x

Two different bodies, about 3 different heads, and 3 different swords if my memory serves me right.

with 1 set you can make the witch king, with no real variation of pose.

with another set you can make a generic wraith albeit with a choice of head and sword.

Baldrick · **Posted:** Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:22 am

As it happens actually guys can I get your opinion on a new list a friend of mine was thinking of using against my fell beast army?

Basically it goes as follows:-

. King Aragorn with Anduril and whatnot.

. Eomer Knight of the Pelennor

. Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth

. And Beregond I think it is...

- Anyway, where possible I think the characters are mounted, so that might well be all of them.

What do you think of it? My personal feelings is that its going to be 1 of 2 extremes - either utterly destroy them with comparative ease, or find them incredibly tough to defeat... but not impossible.

Tactics wise fighting that would be simple - choose hero, transifx, use other wraiths to transfix/compel other heroes away, charge + kill original transfixed hero with one charge... though obviously you've got to watch out for the big will, might and fate reserves of the big nasty heroes. Luring might be something to look into too, to draw individuals away to isolate them from the rest of the group. If my friend's clever about it he wont take the bait though.

cereal_theif · **Posted:** Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:59 pm

He has enough will to stop your transfixes really being as effective.
He can heroic strike and even transfixed Imrahil will be (on average) higher might than your ring wraith forcing you to heroic strike too.

Toughy

Baldrick · **Posted:** Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:45 pm

cereal_theif wrote:

He has enough will to stop your transfixes really being as effective.
He can heroic strike and even transfixed Imrahil will be (on average) higher might than your ring wraith forcing you to heroic strike too.

Toughy

Apart from your point on will + transfix I've no idea what you're talking about since I haven't got the new rules yet haha, but thanks for your advice

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NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:44 pm

Does a Sorcerous blast against a Fell beast, if not resisted result in the Fell beast knocked to the ground and throwing the rider? Therefore killing the Fell beast as it flees the battlefield?

Draugluin · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:37 pm

The new rules don't seem to require a rider to be thrown if it's knocked over. I'm not sure, but that's how I interpret it, so no.

cereal_theif · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:47 pm

New rules are not clear on that any more... old rules yes

NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:51 pm

How are you guys playing the new rules on this then? My brother will not give me anything easy so I need good reason to not carry on with the old rules x

cereal_theif · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:52 pm

My group play "if knocked prone then auto thrown" because it rhymes.

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:29 pm

im hoping all will be clearer when Simon pulls his finger out and releases the next round of FAQ's

Baldrick · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:41 pm

As a matter of interest how could a sorcerous blast even phase a Fell beast anyway? I mean, the thing is enormous... there must be some sort of rule which talks about its effects on various different troop types. Infantry, for example, would likely be much more strongly effected than a massive monster, say the balrog, which probably at most would be pushed back like an inch...

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:18 pm

The only bit in the rules about varying strengths is if the blasted model gets knocked into a monster with str 6 or higher.

Draugluin · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:19 pm

Ya, so even the Balrog can get knocked over, the only model who can't be knocked over is a Mumak.

NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:11 am

Just seems too powerful really. That means that a successful blast would make your Fell beast flee the battlefield. Can't believe they win a GW tournament with them.

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:10 am

That is where the wraiths sap will comes in handy. And they win down to the player. You have to know exactly how to use them otherwise you get destroyed.

NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:18 pm

If you we're going to play just one Ring Wraith on Fell beast, which one would you play?and what tactics would you use against a kingdoms of men army?

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:21 pm

One of the fighty ones, Knight of Umbar, Khamul, witchking maybe. Have you seen the RotK? Adopt the tactics used by the 9 in that :lol:

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