Gandalf on Cart

Lord_of_the_nine · **Posted:** Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:58 am

Hey there.

Since I can't find anywhere rules about Gandalf the Grey on cart can you give me some help?

Is there any special rules or just the same rules for the cart as the ones for Khadish chariots?

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:07 am

rules are in the free peoples book. He is pretty awesome on cart and no, it isnt like the khandish chariots.

Lord_of_the_nine · **Posted:** Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:08 am

ok thanks

Lord_of_the_nine · **Posted:** Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:01 pm

Well I checked it doesn't have any special rules only the cost and the stats for the cart.
Am I wrong please correct me but I don't see anything impressive only that it counts as cavalry and the number of wound the cart has

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:05 pm

that is all that it is. it's special rule is fireworks and that makes it count as cavalry.

SuicidalMarsbar · **Joined:** Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:14 am **Posts:** 1712

Taking the cart is worth it, if your spending that many points on a hero may aswell turn him into a tank.

Denizen · **Joined:** Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:15 pm **Posts:** 156

Some people argue that the profile from Gandalf in the Hobbit Rulebook replaces all existing profiles from Gandalf The Grey, making the Cart illegal. Since it's not included in the profile in The Hobbit Rulebook.

SuicidalMarsbar · **Joined:** Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:14 am **Posts:** 1712

Those people are wrong, Gandalf simply may not take a cart if you use him in Thorin's company.

Lord_of_the_nine · **Posted:** Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:01 pm

SouthernDunedain wrote:

it's special rule is fireworks and that makes it count as cavalry.

Can't find anything about the fireworks "special rule" and after some research I did online I found out that this rule you are reffering was a part of a special scenario which was presented in a white dwarf magazine. So if it's possible to enlighten me a little bit?

Denizen wrote:

Some people argue that the profile from Gandalf in the Hobbit Rulebook replaces all existing profiles from Gandalf The Grey, making the Cart illegal. Since it's not included in the profile in The Hobbit Rulebook.

I think GW considers the LOTR sbg and the HOBBIT sbg as two seperate games (considering the forces at least) and I suppose that's how we should look at them as well or what's the point in making a new rulebook and leaving out ALL the lotr forces

JamesR · **Posted:** Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:59 pm

SuicidalMarsbar wrote:

Taking the cart is worth it, if your spending that many points on a hero may aswell turn him into a tank.

I'm confused how does the cart make him a tank? Other than a 50% chance of absorbing archer fire. It just looks like a waste if points to me, it's slower than a horse and other than what I stated above, gives no real benefit

Denizen · **Joined:** Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:15 pm **Posts:** 156

Lord_of_the_nine wrote:

Denizen wrote:

Some people argue that the profile from Gandalf in the Hobbit Rulebook replaces all existing profiles from Gandalf The Grey, making the Cart illegal. Since it's not included in the profile in The Hobbit Rulebook.

I think GW considers the LOTR sbg and the HOBBIT sbg as two seperate games (considering the forces at least) and I suppose that's how we should look at them as well or what's the point in making a new rulebook and leaving out ALL the lotr forces

They did include all profiles from the 5 sourcebooks (without wargear options or special rules though). But indeed some actions, like giving Rivendell Knights a seperate army list, seperates SBG from the Hobbit

whafrog · **Posted:** Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:07 pm

Denizen wrote:

But indeed some actions, like giving Rivendell Knights a seperate army list, seperates SBG from the Hobbit

I'm not sure that means anything wrt to the game line. Fiefdoms is separate from Gondor, which seems a bit arbitrary. It's more about enforcing an army structure. I would hope after the Hobbit movies are done and they don't need the movie tie-in, they restructure it into "Middle-Earth SBG".

whafrog · **Posted:** Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:12 pm

JamesR wrote:

SuicidalMarsbar wrote:

Taking the cart is worth it, if your spending that many points on a hero may aswell turn him into a tank.

I'm confused how does the cart make him a tank? Other than a 50% chance of absorbing archer fire. It just looks like a waste if points to me, it's slower than a horse and other than what I stated above, gives no real benefit

It's cavalry, so Gandalf's feeble A1 is doubled, and he gets knockdown. He gets a bit more movement for judicious sorcerous blasts, and it's heavily armoured. Not exactly tankish, I agree, but better.

Lord_of_the_nine · **Posted:** Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:20 pm

whafrog wrote:

It's cavalry, so Gandalf's feeble A1 is doubled, and he gets knockdown. He gets a bit more movement for judicious sorcerous blasts, and it's heavily armoured. Not exactly tankish, I agree, but better.

But there is no fireworks special rule right?
Just a yes or no would do

Denizen · **Joined:** Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:15 pm **Posts:** 156

Lord_of_the_nine wrote:

whafrog wrote:

It's cavalry, so Gandalf's feeble A1 is doubled, and he gets knockdown. He gets a bit more movement for judicious sorcerous blasts, and it's heavily armoured. Not exactly tankish, I agree, but better.

But there is no fireworks special rule right?
Just a yes or no would do

No

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