This, just this. If you like them play them you CAN make a strong army with them.

Ok, here goes on some tactica advise.

1) collapsing shield wall.
A general tactic which can be used many ways.
Basically form a shield wall but only put spear support on the edge warriors not hte central warriors.
This will mean that your opponent is most likely to kill in the middle and most likely to die at hte edges.
Once he either kills or you get priority start falling the centre backwards and outwards.

This draws your opponent forward into the gap.

From here you have a few options
a) Sandwich (where you press both sides in and have your heroes stand at either end to stop the filling falling out) Your numbers are being maximised while he may not have room to sort out spears n stuff
b) Encircle continue to fall outwards and contain while a few warriors do the mission
c) split. Use your heroes to make massive kill counts on the edges with your warriors. heroic combatting down the line while the centre shields
d) Hero feeding. The centre moves out of the way and releases your heroes to a steady flow of men but not too many as to overwhelm.

p1 concluded

Lets face it the real question is:Why woundnt anyone use high elves?

Aesthetic problems were the main reason for me. They just didn't have enough troop variation.

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I like the look and the profiles of the heroes, but they are just so difficult to collect. They have no sword and shield models, their spear models are finecast, and you would end up with a bunch of useless numenorians. Such a shame, since they benefited significantly from warband rules and new troop options. Also, they are one of the best monster fighting armies in the game, thanks to kings guard and Gil-Galad.

A lot of people complain about stat creep, but Gil-Galad has basically remained relevant for a decade without a real profile change, which I think is very cool. Bit sad that I'll never have a real chance to get any high elves.

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VandalCabbage, I find if you check Ebay there are always High Elf models being sold. Thanks to them being around longer than almost any LOTR model there are loads in existence, and a lot being sold second hand, often still unpainted. You can pick up metal spearmen this way too, it's how I'm building up my new HE army at least.

High Elves are cool, fun to paint, epic and fun to use and are extremely competitive when used correctly, although it is hard to write strong army lists for them

Good idea, but I would probably not start an army anyway because of the lack of sword/shield models and because I'm trying to build an erebor force. Thanks for the advice though.

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Yeah but unless you find a way to modify the horrible swordsman pose the spearmen still sell for a ton of money.

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Just convince your rich mate with the short attention span to collect high elves. Then buy his collection when he gets bored

Somewhere on here there was a topic devoted to high elf conversions… some were really great. Does anyone remember it?

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Yeah I did see it somewhere. I dont remember where. But one thing was for me personally and nobody should take offense to this.....I dont even find some of the best elf conversions to be very entertaining knowing they all spawn from that same pose..... I think Fredrick did some decent ones.

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Take that back! Numenorians are not as useless as everyone says, against the likes of Isenguard they not really any more squishy, and have better fight.
Back on topic I pretty much always use Gil galad when possibly, such is his usefullness.

You'd take Gil galad over the twins?

Indeed, he is slightly cheaper then them in armour, had fight 9 and +1 to wound, has 12" stand fast, extra courage, an extra wound and attack and allows you to take the king's guard, which can be quite nice taken in small numbers.
Plus the last high king is one of the most awesome characters in lotr fluffwise, and I'm pretty sure the twins were not around to fight alongside Numenorians

Gilly on a horse is waaaay better than the twins... on foot. It is a close call

I meant useless in terms of useless in building a high elf army. The numenorians are indeed overlooked, and perhaps underrated with all this S4 around...
I agree will the Gil-Galad thing, the twins are very good but GG's durability and fight value cinch it if I ever was to take a high elf army. Were they alive at the same time? You could just take both if they were. But I don't think they were.
P.S., it is a sign of GG's merits that I totally forgot about the double standfast and still thought he was the better choice.

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Not to resurrect a dead topic, but, well, i am. I played vs a high elf army not long ago. I lost. Their high fight value was brutal!

Almost a year to be exact lololol.

So what happened? What heroes and troops did he use, and same question of your force. How did it all play out.

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It was the arnor vs elves match i wrote about a few weeks ago. I used aragorn, rangers of the north, malbeth and regular ol' rangers. My opponent used the twins, a batch of high elves, legolas, some woodelves, and a wood elf cavalry led by a generic capt. The biggest problem of the match was that i couldnt roll well. He outrolled me by a lot. At one point i shot a volley of 22 arrows at him and only killed a single woodelf. Either way, the elven fight value is not to be mocked.