What are Dwarves worst against?

N00bie_Boy · **Joined:** Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:56 am **Posts:** 99

What Evil can smash Dwarves? Also, to hit 2 Orcs with one arrow- which is superior- Mordor Orcs or Morannon Orcs? I know in 1v1 combat the Morannon Orcs would win but I think their points are higher, so which is more cost effective?

JamesR · **Posted:** Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:24 am

Probably one of the best choices against Dwarves is Harad. Their cavalry are fast and hard hitting and their poison arrows help with that high defense.
Also a Moria force with monster support can be quite effective as is a heavy Armored Isengard force as they can tie fight value and have good strength and defense of their own.

But as to "smashing" dwarves. There frankly isn't an army that could do it super easily as Dwarves are too high defensively. It's all about using various army strengths to their best effect to beat them

Wise Old Elf · **Posted:** Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:04 am

A friend of mine has a Lothlorien themed army that has never lost to Dwarves at all in the decade or so he's been fielding it - friendly games of course, no tournaments or anything.

I'm not a gamer so I don't know point values, but he has White Council Galadriel, Celeborn, Lorien Haldir, Stormcaller, and then about four warbands of Galadhrim archers, maybe seven or eight Galadhrim swordsman warbands, and then two of knights. Obviously he doesn't use all these at once, at least I've never seen him do that, but he always takes Haldir and most of the archers. I think I'm right in saying he's only ever lost to Mordor, Harad and Gondor.

But, at the end of the day, it's down to sheer luck of the dice and a tactical gamer from what I've seen. A gamer who is an expert with Lothlorien may simply lay waste to hordes of Dwarves, but someone just starting out is likely to taste the leather boots of Erebor.

JamesR · **Posted:** Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:58 am

I'm amazed he's beat the Dwarves so handily. I play against elves quite often (all factions) and I've never lost as my dwarves, never even lost 10% of my force to them. They lack the necessary strength to wound the Dwarves.
I really need a TARDIS so I can come play against you lot across the pond. Put my undefeated record on the line lol

LordoftheBrownRing · **Posted:** Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:20 pm

I'd say play with magic or monsters. I think I nice evil force using some ringwraith powers and some shamans maybe with trolls dwellers saruman and isengard maybe being strong with attack and a fair point value.

whafrog · **Posted:** Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:59 pm

Back before throwing weapons were nerfed, Corsairs did the trick. You can kite around taking advantage of dwarves slow movement. You need 6s to wound anything, so it takes a while, and it wouldn't work very well if dwarves have maxed bowmen, unless you bring some pavises.

I think Uruk hai do pretty well, or did before dwarves had spears. Haven't played them in a while, dwarves bore me

Dorthonion · **Posted:** Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:19 pm

Evil giraffes.

Hill-Troll · **Posted:** Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:44 pm

Bill the pony.

LordElrond · **Posted:** Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:48 pm

Army of the Dead are the obvious choice, no?
Negates all those lovely points they spent on their high D

LordoftheBrownRing · **Posted:** Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:50 pm

Thats true in a friendly game when you know who youre playing....but against anything else good.....they dont do much so no to tournaments.

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:51 pm

Mumak...unless you are fighting khazad guard. At the preston tourney I had one stomp its way through my entire army of erebor dwarves...at least with khazads they dont need to take courage tests.

Thermo · **Posted:** Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:15 pm

I find the lack of spears and relatively expensive troop choices, plus the lack of movement has made them suffer against cavalry. Vulnerable to skirmishing and being ganged up on and picked off, maximising the number of dice to wound (so knock down from the cavalry) is a good way to kill them off. So the fight 4 across the board in most of my cavalry army, plus the axes against those that might usually shield seems to get through them quite quickly. A Son of Eorl charging and knocking one down when he wins the fight gets 6 dice to get a 6 on a d7 or d8 dwarf, 5's against iron guard, maximising your chance to kill. And if they shield, piercing strike...

cereal_theif · **Posted:** Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:42 pm

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What are Dwarves worst against?

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