Hey all,
Just a quick question. I know this has been discussed previously But just wanted some views.
I have not play tested this model as I am painting it. But Just wondering about who uses the their MWF (Azog or the Warg)
My understanding is that the stats of the cavalry and rider are mixed always using the highest. So say if Azog's might is higher than the White Warg, you use his first until it is lower or the same.
As the will and fate are more based towards defensive play I would believe this would affect whatever unit is attacked.
Anyone share the same thoughts?
( Hope this doesn't break the guidelines tried to be careful how to word this)

It's a really good question and the truth is we don't know. M/W/F are not the same as normal stats so you don't simply pick the highest. Azog on the White Warg is an anomaly as it's the only model in the game where both the rider and the mount have these stats. It's been submitted to GW as an FAQ but in the meantime it has been answered in the GBHL community FAQ, that's not to say our ruling is correct, simply this is what a consensus of players agreed on and how it is currently being played in the UK tournament scene so you may find it useful:

Azog on the White Warg

The White Warg's Packmaster rule means his Heroic Moves/Marches and Combats only affect him and other Wargs. Can the White Warg use a point of Might to call a Heroic Move/March/Combat whilst Azog is riding him without forcing Azog to dismount? Yes

The White Warg's Packmaster rule means that his Heroic Move/Marches/Combats only affect him and other Wargs, If the White Warg uses a point of Might to call a Heroic Move/March/Combat whilst Azog is riding him, does With me/At the Double/the Heroic Combat affect models that aren't Wargs? Yes, as long as Azog is riding the White Warg, you may use the White Warg’s Might for Heroic Moves/Marches and Combats as if they were Azog’s. The Packmaster rule only comes into play if Azog dismounts from the White Warg at any point. Note that you still need to make a note of whether Azog or the White Warg used the Might point in case they are later separated

If The White Warg uses a Might point to call a Heroic Strike does he have to add the D6 to his own fight value or can he use Azog's? He has to use his own Fight value

Can you use the White Warg and Azog's Might interchangeably and in combination to boost a jump/leap/climb/Duel/To Wound/Resist/Courage Test etc. roll? Yes. For all of these situations, treat Azog on the White Warg as a single model with 6 Might. Note that you still need to make a note of whether Azog or the White Warg used the Might point in case they are later separated

If Azog on White Warg is targeted by an enemy spell can you use the White Warg's Will and/or combine the White Warg’s Will with Azog's and roll them together to resist it? Similarly, if Azog fails a courage roll, can he use the White Warg’s Will and/or combine his Will point with that of the White Warg’s to pass it? Yes, for all intents and purposes treat Azog on the White Warg as 1 model with 4 Will. Note that you still need to make a note of whether Azog or the White Warg used the Will point in case they are later separated

Can you use Azog's Fate point to prevent a wound on the White Warg and vice versa? No

If Azog fails a Fate roll when, can you use the White Warg's Might to boost it to a pass (and vice versa)? No



I hope you find it useful, the alternative approach which is far simpler (but feels 'wrong' when it comes to Fate) is just to treat the White Warg as a piece of wargear for Azog that turns him into a 6M/4W/2F model (although as above you would still need to make a note of who uses what in case they get separated).

If you're interested in the FAQ it's available online here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ro1fvbar1z0r ... %20FAQ.pdf

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Thanks for that reply dr grant just reading through that FAQ now!! Does seem to clear up most grey areas!
The interpretation of azog's and white wargs mwf seems very good!! Hopefully when GW can be bothered creating an FAQ for this, they adopt a similar set of rules!
Thanks again