You know you're a LOTR fan when...

Draugluin · **Posted:** Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:23 pm

...when you think that people are just copying LotR when they have orcs and such in their fantasy worlds (ie Eragon, Warhammer, etc).

Meneldil · **Posted:** Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:26 pm

Draugluin wrote:

...when you think that people are just copying LotR when they have orcs and such in thier fantasy worlds (ie Eragon, Warhammer, etc).

Totally agree!

WayUnderTheMountain · **Posted:** Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:56 pm

The Inheritance Series has Urgals which are distinctly different from Orcs in more ways than one. Agree on the Warhammer Orcs though.

When you understand WHY so many books, games and movies use Lord of the Rings as a source for ideas and concepts.

Draugluin · **Posted:** Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:40 pm

WayUnderTheMountain wrote:

The Inheritance Series has Urgals which are distinctly different from Orcs in more ways than one. Agree on the Warhammer Orcs though.

When you understand WHY so many books, games and movies use Lord of the Rings as a source for ideas and concepts.

I know they aren't orcs, but they are obviously based off of them, or at least the film version of Uruk-hai.

WayUnderTheMountain · **Posted:** Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:01 am

Hmmm I see your point but I find they are far too different to say they are based off of Uruk-hai or Orcs. First off, they are natural creature while orcs and uruk-hai are creations of Morgoth/Sauron/Saruman. Second, they have a distinct culture beyond the survival-of-the-fittest that most evil races (particularly Orcs and Uruks) have. Third, they become "good guys" for over half the series and are not forced to extinction or mostly wiped out. However, I have the feeling we're going to agree to disagree, so I will agree that the Urgals/Kull were obviously meant to take the place of Orcs/Uruks in terms of concept and role (at least initially) but are not as a direct copy from the Lord of the Rings.

Now back on topic.

When you call a girl an "elf" and mean it as a compliment but you call your guy friends "elves" to irritate them.

Bastion.HUN · **Posted:** Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:48 am

... when one of you most important dream is to travel to New Zealand, and stay there for a month at least.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:14 pm

WayUnderTheMountain wrote:

The Inheritance Series has Urgals which are distinctly different from Orcs in more ways than one. Agree on the Warhammer Orcs though.

When you understand WHY so many books, games and movies use Lord of the Rings as a source for ideas and concepts.

AH, glad someone mentioned that actually because...

When you like other books eg the Inheritance Cycle because they remind you of LOTR.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:15 pm

WayUnderTheMountain wrote:

Hmmm I see your point but I find they are far too different to say they are based off of Uruk-hai or Orcs. First off, they are natural creature while orcs and uruk-hai are creations of Morgoth/Sauron/Saruman. Second, they have a distinct culture beyond the survival-of-the-fittest that most evil races (particularly Orcs and Uruks) have. Third, they become "good guys" for over half the series and are not forced to extinction or mostly wiped out. However, I have the feeling we're going to agree to disagree, so I will agree that the Urgals/Kull were obviously meant to take the place of Orcs/Uruks in terms of concept and role (at least initially) but are not as a direct copy from the Lord of the Rings.

Now back on topic.

When you call a girl an "elf" and mean it as a compliment but you call your guy friends "elves" to irritate them.

Urgals are based on Orcs, Paolini said as much himslef they just turn out to be less evil, because they are needed to not be evil, for the whole Alliance of Everyone against Galbatorix.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:27 pm

GooberNumber9 wrote:

...you laugh at the fact that GW named a model "The Dwimmerlaik" because you know that phrase was meant as an insult. You've researched and found it means "fledgling sorcerer".

In Tolkein mythos, "Dwimmerlaik" is the Rohirric word for evil spirits, it roughly translates as "restless spirits", the Rohirrim used the word "Dwimmerlaik to describe the Dead of Dunharrow, Barrow-wights, Spirits of the Dead Marshes, Ringwraiths (Also elves and ents because they are veryy supersticious.

Draugluin · **Posted:** Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:26 am

I think they only used Dwimmer as that, Laik being added on for when Eowyn talks to the WK.

Wah Wing · **Posted:** Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:11 pm

...when in a Communications class, your Demonstration Speech is topic-ed as How to Paint an Uruk-hai Warrior. :-)

Draugluin · **Posted:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:17 am

Draugluin wrote:

I think they only used Dwimmer as that, Laik being added on for when Eowyn talks to the WK.

...you refer to races from LotR as "they" as if they were real.

mastermanje · **Posted:** Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:47 pm

...when your friends are talking about lotr:
Friend 1: If Saruman would have visited Helm's Deep, the uruks would have won!
You: No, just let your archers fire at some sappers next to him, and hope you get some good dice rolls...i mean...Gandalf would have killed him

Hilbert · **Joined:** Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:07 am **Posts:** 2088

That reminds me of the Legolas killing Witch-king example :lol:

mastermanje · **Posted:** Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:41 pm

Hilbert wrote:

That reminds me of the Legolas killing Witch-king example :lol:

Oh, just read that one, sounds fun to, I realy like that 'Meat's back on the menu, boys' :lol:

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:02 pm

Draugluin wrote:

I think they only used Dwimmer as that, Laik being added on for when Eowyn talks to the WK.

...you refer to races from LotR as "they" as if they were real.

I would elaborate on something about the race of Hardarim for LOTR, but I will not say it, for I would get into trouble

(and no they didn't see: Characters from Tolkien by David Day)

Draugluin · **Posted:** Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:05 pm

What, that they're Arabs?

Well, they used Dwimmorberg for the Haunted Mountain, so Dwimmor/dwimmer obviously mean haunted. I didn't know that they used Dwimmerlaik for other stuff.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:08 pm

Draugluin wrote:

What, that they're Arabs?

More of, that whwn I see a Muslim woman in a Burkha, my first thought is that they are a Haradrim Warrior.

Hilbert · **Joined:** Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:07 am **Posts:** 2088

When your essay tacher is talking about Pindar's quote: In peace children bury their parents, in war parents bury their children... and you reply with
No parent should have to bury their child.-Theoden

(Two times already)

Wah Wing · **Posted:** Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:09 am

When your English teacher calls you a Lord of the Rings fanatic... :-D

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