Draugluin wrote:
That would have to be Thrain in a flashback as Gandalf got the key and map from Thrain in Dol Guldur.
Are you talking about the movies timeline (which changes several key things in history) or the Book timeline. For the Book you are correct but in The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey (the Movie) they changed several things in the history. First of all the Council knew of Dol Guldur in the books for, I think, about 100 years, There was no White council meeting when Bilbo was in Imlandris with the Dwarfs as this happened before the Company set out, Galdalf was only to accompany them to the Edge of Mirkwood do to the business with Dol Guldur (in the movie he is taking the whole trip with them, remember in the book one of the important reasons they allowed Bilbo to come along was to remove the unlucky number of 13 as Gandalf didn't count among the company), And the Witchking was never locked away (while in the movie they have a line in there about him being entombed and powerful magics placed on his prison), and Radagast had to convince Gandalf that Dol Guldur was occupied by a powerful Necromancer.
So given the fact he knows nothing about the stirrings in Dol Guldur, how could he have gotten the key and map from Thrain while imprisoned with in Dol Guldur? That is if your talking about the movie over the book and appendices or the first movie doesn't add up with the next two about Gandalf not knowing about the Necromancer.