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 Post subject: Re: Azog
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:53 pm 
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I asked member of GW staff yesterday about the lack of an Azog miniature. He claimed this is because New Line dictate what can and cant be released from each film, and they have not given permission for Azog to be released.


Is this his theory or is this true?


He told me this as fact, not theory. It is just heresay but I have be told a similar thing by someone I know involved in the toy line. The Lego sets and standard action figures had Bolg, not Azog.

There was a Lego set of mirkwood and barrel escape, but they were labeled as 'special preview' sets. I imagine on the two film plan both of these scenes would have been in film one. Lego production takes a long time and investment and so I imagine this was a work around to keep new line happy but still release them.

In the world of toy merchandising Lego are a big deal and I imagine they have a lot more negotiating power than the comparatively tiny Games Workshop.
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I have seen legolas and tauriel action figures but no azog.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:01 pm 
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I dont think it's anything to do with licensing, it's simply down to GWs release schedule. GW Sculpt all their SBG figs from the concept artwork that's created months/years in advance of the films being released not from an early edit of the film. You can see this most clearly in the Hobbit range in the Trolls and the Goblin King, people have said their faces don't look like they do in the movie but the models look EXACTLY like the concept art in the Chronicles book, which is what the sculptors were working from. Then, late in the day, the trolls and the goblin king's faces were animated from mo-cap which the sculptors wouldn't have access to, explaining the difference in appearance.

Similarly, Azog was a digital creation late in the day so GW would have been far behind on that one and it's perfectly possible that the first they saw of him was when the movie was released. There's precedent for this, as Gene pointed out the Fell Beast was released in the middle of the year and the rules weren't in the Two Towers rulebook. I remember the LOTR editorial that month explainging that the reason was that GW didn't know Fell Beasts were going to be in the film until they saw it in cinemas! Clearly New Line/WB still want to keep some of the big creatures under wraps.

So assuming GW only saw the final Azog design around Decmeber it's really not unreasonable for him to have not been released yet. I dont know what the GW production scehdule is like and how long things take but lets assume the sculptors were immediately free to start work on the sculpt, creating a figure like that from scratch, getting it approved, painted, photographed and packaged must take t least three months I'd guess. When you then consider that White Dwarf is produced around 3 months in advance then June is really the very earliest we could have seen the new look Azog released and July/August and even later isn't that unlikely.

All that said though I'm itching to see what they've come up with, I don't know why but I think the Azog figure is going to absolutely superb, really can't wait :-)

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:45 am 
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http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/06 ... urce=pubv1

GW does not usually take part in this kind of event. Some of you might be interested in the new Azog Toys

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:59 pm 
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Sorry this is a bit off topic. Is the top picture your own you actually have, or is it from the London Toy Fair prototype figure pictures that were doing the rounds in January? My understanding was that Azog was going to be released later this year as part of the Hobbit Wave 2 action figures. I don't know when these will be in the shops, probably late summer early autumn as the run in to DOS.

Obviously if you actually have the figure I am wrong. And where did you get i! My Kids are desperate for an Azog!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:57 pm 
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Don't know, just googled it.

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 Post subject: Re: Azog - Released this month!
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Just had word that our almighty azog will be released this month. $40 (US) so I'm guessing ft and mtd. I have the release schedule, will edit it in later.

Edit: hopefully image is attached.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:44 am 
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Excellent, thanks for posting, can't wait

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:48 am 
@SD: on your picture it is stated 'foot and mounted' ;) But this is reay great news! Sad though that it is just him...I finally want the finecast company.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:50 am 
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Great find Sam, very excited now, been hyping this figure up in my head (and on the forums) for months now, come on GW, don't disappoint! 8)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:02 am 
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@gunslinger: yeah I realised that once I looked again after I had woken up.

If I see any pictures, I'll post them here.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:36 pm 
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Well, he's finally getting released, but I wish it was him on Foot, Mounted and the White Warg on his own. I would have been willing to pay more for that. Still gonna get it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:59 pm 
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Fantastic! I wonder if you'll get any options to change his arm to the spike.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:08 pm 
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I suspect that GW will include the option in a manner that would encourage us to buy the model twice!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:35 pm 
Are there pictures yet?
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Awesome! May I ask how you got your hands on this schedule? :3

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:16 pm 
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Awesome! May I ask how you got your hands on this schedule? :3


:E If you look hard enough on the internet, you can find anything...


.:Gunslinger:. wrote:
Are there pictures yet?


...except pictures :-X everybody is too busy drooling over the apocalype stuff.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:53 pm 
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So US$40 would mean £25 in UK prices?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:04 pm 
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Yessir. Which IMO is reasonably priced.

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