1-Can the person to trolling the mount heroic strike up the fight value of a combat it's involved in?

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Well I forget but I'm sure I'll remember more later.

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BLACKHAWK 2010 2013 2015 DYNASTY

I don't understand a what is being asked. Please clarify

I'm pretty sure he is asking if the person controlling the Mumak is able to heroic strike and raise the fight value of the mount. Or something close to that. I don't actually know the answer either.

Yeah.

I buy a tribe master. Or the Chieftan is the guy 'driving' the mount.

Elephants fight value is four.

Can the driver heroic strike that fight value up.

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BLACKHAWK 2010 2013 2015 DYNASTY

Yes, as its his mount, rider+mount=single model.

Here's another question.

Since the whole mumak is one model how does a banner affect him?

If say the back part of his base is within range of a banner or rule and the Driver himself is not, can he still use that banner or rule?

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BLACKHAWK 2010 2013 2015 DYNASTY

The rules for the mumak state that it can't benefit from a banner at all. So if the driver is not contributing attacks, which I belief is the case, then banners should have no effect regardless of placement.

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"Draw your sword with a heavy heart, but swing it with a heavy hand"

And special rules?

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BLACKHAWK 2010 2013 2015 DYNASTY

It seems that I was remembering older rules when I answered before. Upon inspection of the current set anew it is only the Mumak's own banner effect which is forbid it, rather than all banners at large. I was unable to find anything pertaining to the effects of special rules on the thing so it would seem that, in the absents of restrictions, you are free to have it take effect of whatever you like. But remember that non of the crew take part in the fights, even when driving.

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"Draw your sword with a heavy heart, but swing it with a heavy hand"

I was just wondering specifically about having a taskmaster within range of the Chieftan. Free heroic moves and such.

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BLACKHAWK 2010 2013 2015 DYNASTY

Well if that's the case then you'd have to get the Taskmaster up into the Howda with ropes or something so he could be in range of the driver or beastmaster. Otherwise it won't do anything since all the models are separate from each other and the mumak can't take part in actions called by heroes other then his driver.

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"Draw your sword with a heavy heart, but swing it with a heavy hand"

Sorry let me clarify.

If there is a taskmaster on the ground within 6" of the mumaks base, but not the Chieftan, can the Chieftan roll his 4,5,6 and still save might called by himself for HIS heroic action.

I.E. The mumak is considered one entity with its driver,but does that mean you can scurry a taskmaster behind the mumak for that might save?

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BLACKHAWK 2010 2013 2015 DYNASTY

The mumak and its crew are not considered one model. So no you could not have a taskmaster within range of the mumak's base and get rerolls for the driver.

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"Draw your sword with a heavy heart, but swing it with a heavy hand"

Ah ok I understand. Thanks for the help man! Much appreciated.

I used for for the first time ever on my side or against me haahah probably will have more questions too.

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BLACKHAWK 2010 2013 2015 DYNASTY

The heroic strike and taskmaster combos seem two great ones I was not aware of despite of being a mumak user. Nice topic!

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Conversation/Ideas over painting etc, can check here:
http://www.one-ring.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=29455

yeah dude I'm a huge advocate of taskmasters and they've been very nice to me. I've saved maybe 6-8 might in 700-850 pt games this year.
I used the mumk in my first small tournament ever at 450 points recently.
I faced two horde armies and another Elite Army.
The only reason the mumak ever really got injured was because of losing combats with that low fight value and also bow fire but you can't really prevent that unless you have the shadow Lord.

So my thoughts were basically how do I keep it so that I get the charge off all the time and also that I could save my guys might or have more might.


What a funny idea if you use the mumak at say......650 pts.
Shadow Lord. Task master, rappelling lines.
Run those guys up there at the beginning of the game so they have protection and you have magic all kinds of Might everything up there and you can't really be shot well.....hahahaha

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BLACKHAWK 2010 2013 2015 DYNASTY

Valadorn what do you usually put for upgrades on your elephant?

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BLACKHAWK 2010 2013 2015 DYNASTY

i cannot find any rules saying models can climb into the hawda. can some one point me to what page and were on the page?

There actually aren't any anymore. Repelling lines only let models in the howda leave it, which they are not otherwise able to do voluntarily while the mumak is alive. It used to be possible in the old version to climb up the repelling lines or to cross over to the howda if it was in contact with a building of similar height, live siege tower was the rule I think, but they don't seem to exist anymore. Strange, it seems like something that should be their but I guess it was sort of an exploit.

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"Draw your sword with a heavy heart, but swing it with a heavy hand"

good to know now was about to buy a Mumak get some urakai crossbowmen with vasku and let them climb up into it. best bows in game that are mobile sounds tasty to me