700 pts Mordor or Goblins

Teacups17 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:35 pm **Posts:** 48

I am super happy with my good team, but I am having trouble choosing an evil team. I have a fair amount of mordor and goblins (both moria and goblin town). Here are the two best lists that I am come up with. Any advice on how I could improve them? Thanks

Team 1

The Shadow Lord fellbeast

Troll Chieftan
Black Numenorean Banner
Black Numenorean War Horn
3 Morannon Orc Shields
2 Orc Shields
4 Orc Spears
Spectre

Orc Shaman
3 Morannon Orc Shields
2 Morannon Orcs
1 Orc Shield
6 Orc Spear

Barrow-wight
6 Orcs Shield
6 Orcs Spear

Team 2

The Shadow Lord fellbeast
Black Numenorean War Horn

Durburz
Dweller in the Dark
Bat Swarm
5 Moria Goblins Shield
5 Moria Goblins Spear

Goblin Shaman
5 Moria Goblins Shield
5 Moria Goblins Spear
Cave Troll

Gundabad Blackshield Captain
6 Moria Goblins Shield
6 Moria Goblins Spears

Both armies have 40 models

McGarnacle · **Joined:** Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:02 pm **Posts:** 167

The Goblin force looks great, I would go with that one. I would suggest dropping the Blackshield captain and going for Ashrak, then dropping Durburz for Groblog to take advantage of 5+ Fury. The Dweller, Bat Swarm AND Cave Troll is a good idea, but if you do find you need more numbers, drop the troll. Hope that helped and good luck!

Teacups17 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:35 pm **Posts:** 48

Thanks, I was a little worried about the numbers in the goblin force, but 3 monsters should help, plus I found spamming numbers very boring to play. I would love to change it to Groblog and Asrak but I missed out on getting them and now they are impossible to find, at least I can channel fury. I find Durburz useful but would you replace the gundabad captain with another shaman?

McGarnacle · **Joined:** Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:02 pm **Posts:** 167

If you don't have Groblog, it becomes more of a toss-up. I would still take the Shaman, because the Troll and Dweller already give you plenty of killing power, but test things out and see what works for you.

Also, since Groblog and Ashrak are unavailable, if you convert them, they count as official models, if I remember correctly.

Teacups17 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:35 pm **Posts:** 48

Ok I will have a look at a possible conversion, although may try out another shaman first and see how it goes

Salattu · **Joined:** Mon May 18, 2015 10:24 pm **Posts:** 256

Well, there are too many spears. Bows and swords take the front line off fast. So you will need a lot more shieldmen than spearmen.

Teacups17 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:35 pm **Posts:** 48

They shouldnt be able to take off many as that is what the shadow lord is for

700 pts Mordor or Goblins

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