ja33 wrote:
@Hill-Troll, why is it naive to think that Glorfindel would be there ? I'm not a Tolkien expert by any means, but GW, Wikipedia and many other Tolkien-info sources list Glorfindel as being part of the White Council. And both Glorfindel and Erestor are specifically mentioned in the FotR White Council meeting (as Alatar mentions above). And GW's 'Fall of the Necromancer' Sourcebook includes Glorfindel, as well as Erestor, Cirdan, Arwen, etc. as all taking part in the attack on Dol Guldur. If you have knowledge counter to this, please share, as I am unaware of why it would not be possible for Glorfindel to be there - thx
Although he is often mentioned as one of the possible members, afaik, no where in canon it's mentioned Glorfindel was a part of the White Council He was of the Council of Elrond, but these two are not the same. (but if someone can find a canon quote contradicting this, please do so and I'll purr).
Over the years, I've come to take many fan sites (including wikipedia) who have an overall good outline, with a grain of salt when it come to the minor details (it doesn't help that it's not uncommon there are actually multiple versions of what is canon around, especially when you throw the HoME books in the mix)
GW on it's turn is putting nice sets together but does't always stick to the books either. Not that I'm complaining thought (I love the white council set personally)
What becomes the White Council in the appendixes of LOTR, is in the Hobbit still described as ''a great council of the white wizards, masters of lore and good magic"
In LOTR it's mentioned it was Galadriel who summoned the White Council, and Gandalf and Saruman had to be part of it, for she wanted the first to lead it, while the second was eventually chosen the leader. (Elrond is actually never mentioned as a part of the White Council here, but it makes sense to have him in too).
Last bit of info on the White Council members is Silmarillion stuff and we all know PJ is not going to burn his hands on that one:
Quote:
'and in that time was first made the Council of the Wise that is called the White Council, and therein were Elrond and Galadriel and Cirdan, and other lords of the Eldar, and with them were Mithrandir and Curunir. And Curunir (that was Saruman the White) was chosen to be their chief, for he had most studied the devices of Sauron of old.'
This does make it highly possible for someone like Glorfindel to be part of it, but it's not confirmed.
This all being said, movie-wise it makes no sense of bringing in a new character at this point, while the three White Council members where perfectly able to handle things themselves.